JavaScript is disabled. Making plans rain down like a monsoon I know it has always had operation and maintenance issues, but when it was working properly, it was a fantastic adventure. You are using an out of date browser. They just got new track to smooth it, thatll probably make racer last another 5-10 years. I predict over the next few years, Jungle X-Pedition will expand to include Avalance (themed to a Mayan ruin) and the eventual Volcano replacement (Im still thinking a Wing Coaster diving around a Stonehenge like structure). I think i would die if they ever removed rebel. The scenery would be Safari themed, with a combination of big rocks (and crumbling walls? Also the entire side of the FoF building could be painted or wrapped with matching scenery/colors, with enough real scenery in front to make that work. The real question is can the spinning trains go that fast? [2] Nearly a year later on February 8, 2019, Kings Dominion quietly announced intentions to remove Volcano from the park, citing issues with reliability, rider capacity, and overall customer satisfaction. News. You must log in or register to reply here. Twenty miles north of Richmond, Kings Dominion amusement park's steel coasters climb to 300 feet and whip many of its more than 1 million annual visitors up to speeds of 90 mph. KD has always been a park that's screamed "eventual flying coaster" to me despite how unlikely that's always seemed. Referring to the_man, I agree about Intamin. Designed by Werner Stengel, it was the first launched roller coaster manufactured by Intamin and the first of its kind in the world to be inverted. So this was a concept I came up with late last year. The proposal in this draft appears to be a shortened version of the already-once-cloned B&M wing coaster layout Roller Coaster DataBase has dubbed the Hot Go. The iteration found in the plans we obtained removes the vertical loop after the dive drop and swaps in a simple banked turn in place of the Hot Gos final helix. [12] Volcano: The Blast Coaster officially opened to the public two days later on August 3, 1998. The zero-g roll, jr. immelmann, and the heartline roll all take place in areas previously occupied by Kings Dominions now-demolished mountain, bringing us to the downward spiral (#8 in our layout graphic). It may not display this or other websites correctly. I remember the Land of Doozies from its Lost World days with a Doozie of a thene song. The two attractions remaining inside Haunted River and Time Shaft were completely removed along with the remains of Smurf Mountain that had been idle for several years. Jonquil. It was the best ride at Kings Dominion for a long time before I305 went up in my opinion with its unique premise and how fun it was. In a sense they can still be the best part of the ride because the whole thing's ruined. I could see a Gravity Group woodie, or a really good GCI. Additionally, we know that these plans are a few months old. Ideal and Likely Volcano Replacement Ideas. Kings Dominion & Soak City . Alright so about that replacement idea: Me personally I would love a more intense version of Copperhead Strike. As with any article like this, we need to point out that we cannot verify the authenticity of these documents with 100% certainty. The ride theme, and type all sound amazing. Also KD has been getting VERY, VERY, VERY lucky.. 4 years between twisted Timbers and Tumbili, and its highly likely that volcano replacement will come on KDs 50th anniversary. So Mack CAN make good launches hmm I wouldnt mind a Mack being the replacement of volcano if it was like this minus the top hat. Eventually, Intamin added a second boost launch just before the flip out of the mountain to decrease rollbacks, which eventually led to them returning the trains to their full compliment of seats. Earlier today, Kings Dominion in Doswell, VA announced a significant thematic overhaul to one of the parks lands as well as unveiling the details of Cedar Fairs only significant construction project for 2022. Regardless, even if all we know is that Kings Dominion is in talks with Bolliger & Mabillard for Volcanos replacement, thats still a pretty major story considering were still a year and a half or more away from a possible opening. In fact, at the time of this writing, this coaster, as it is proposed in this plan, would probably be one of the shortest B&M wing coasters ever built. For more information, please see our this surely ranks somewhat highly in the 'worst replacement for classic ride' category. Wrecking shop, when I drop Now that we have the proposed coaster layout, lets place it inside Kings Dominion. 2021 - New Coaster - Rumor - (2/28/20) Sad news for Kings Dominion fans because I know you've been waiting to hear all about some big time coaster plan for 2021. Lastly, we have to address a major datapoint that weve successfully avoided until now: the timeline. Griz has always been a unpopular favorite of mine for the setting in those woods and the iconic "wildcat" layout. Earlier today, Kings Dominion in Doswell, . It's true, this coasters reliability was completely unpredictable, 2 hours on, 2 hours off. Unfortunately, KDFans reports that the B&M Wing Coaster plans that were in development have been "shelved" and that the park is looking at going in a different direction. POV of Volcano taken from the park's official Facebook Page Reimagining the former Outer Hanks restaurant, Basecamp is the new eatery, bar, and retail establishment found at the beginning of Jungle X-Pedition. . According to the draft we obtained, if this layout were selected as the final design, Scrambler, would almost certainly need to be removed or relocated. After a series of delays, Volcano opened to the public on August 3, 1998. A man-made mountain, originally called The Lost World, was constructed at Kings Dominion in 1979. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In fact, in order to increase reliability in its first season, Paramount's Kings Dominion removed half the seats from the trains halfway through the summer to ensure they could make it out of the volcano and through the rest of the course. The Lost World: Reclaimed - curious if the park could invoke it's history as a defence? That said, the existence of these documents and the details contained within them, do give us an incredible and unprecedented look inside the parks direction with the Volcano replacement project. Today, KDFans gets its first article ever that justifies partaking in that grand traditionhence theLL Cool J prelude. So the F.L.Y. Designed by Werner Stengel, it was the first launched roller coaster manufactured by Intamin and the first of its kind in the world to be inverted. What could KDFans be packing to justify such (embarrassing) cockiness? Riders are arranged 2 across in 2 rows for a total of 16 riders per train. [5] At a cost of $20 million, the new ride would become the first launched roller coaster in the world to be inverted. CoasterAuditor; Mar 7, 2020; 17 18 19. ), bushes and small trees that would make most of the coaster not visible from the rest of the park or even itself, and more importantly the rest of the park would not be visible from much of the ride so you feel like you leave it and go somewhere else. Miner's Revenge replacement. Once again, the map below is based solely on information contained within the draft proposal KDFans obtained. That doesnt mean we havent been visiting and following Kings Dominion thoughwe just havent run into anything worthy of writing aboutwell, that is, until now. [11] Originally, Volcano only featured one LIM launch at the beginning of the ride. When given the choice between writing about filings for a new coaster in Williamsburg or reporting on a monster truck rally in Doswell, Im sorry, but Im always picking the Busch Gardens Williamsburg story. Leaked coaster plans for a proposed B&M Wing Coaster. Kings Dominion Discount Tickets | [Save $25 Per Ticket] This 400 acre park contains over 11 Roller Coasters, 60+ rides, attractions, and even shows. They'd have to take me with it, Anaconda unfortunately might be next. Volcano had a long history of maintenance issues, so its closure is not surprising, but the timing is hard for long time fans. So is the wild mouse. [13][14] Volcano featured a roll out at 155 feet (47m), making it the tallest inversion on any roller coaster. Despite its relatively limited height though, the leaked proposed layout does pack a healthy five inversions, which is what I would call roughly average for the model. If you're a content creator, I highly recommend using this platform! The ride's mountain setting also distinguished it from typical coaster installations in regional parks. You are using an out of date browser. Jungle X-Pedition introduces parkgoers to the Amazonian discoveries of Professor Gerald Winston Whey, who so generously sponsored the new area. Some were stranded for more than two hours. Virginia's Kings Dominion announced yesterday that it has closed and will remove its Volcano: The Blast Coaster. Think Far Cry 2. But it'd be really expensive for KD to add considering B&Ms aren't cheap and they'd have to do a lot of landscaping for the ride to be all that interesting. 3 trains with 4 cars. I hope this trend of self-leveling videos, or whatever it's called, on coasters comes to an end soon. save. And thats around 3 years. The problem is that trying to keep the mountain in place will likely cost too much, and I wouldn't be surprised to see KD demolish the entire site to build a new attraction on the old footprint. Feb 8, 2019. ^They should put those restraints on every non-B&M Mega model honestly. In order to top Volcano tho, Kings Dominion will really need to put a lot of theming into the coaster that will eventually replace Volcano regardless of what type it is . However,now Kings Dominion desperately needs an inverted coaster. Make it stop. The existence of a single storage track essentially confirms that this coaster, as designed in this draft, would only run two trainsagain, not really uncommon for the model, but its worth noting nonetheless. May 3, 2018 808 [2], In addition to being the first of its kind to use an LIM launch system, Volcano opened as the fastest inverted roller coaster in the world, reaching a maximum speed of 70mph (110km/h). The train then moved into its first of two launch tracks, which accelerated the train to 70 miles per hour (110km/h). "Kings Dominion will be the cure for cabin fever in 2023 . [2], The new coaster was plagued with a variety of technical issues long before it opened. Doing a full loop from bottom to top back to the bottom is a blast. Park Update - Kings Dominion. After getting emails about users on this forum attempting to access the file, I decided to convert this to public format. [2] Although the early ride design from this concept wasn't used, much of the proposed theme was retained. Eh. Chapter Text The Dragon's Lair. For the 1999 season, a second set of LIMs were added further along the launch track. Located just outside Richmond, Va., Kings Dominion traces its history to 1975, when the park was built by Ohio-based Taft Broadcasting, which had opened Kings Island in Ohio in 1972. Thus, we are fairly confident in saying that, as of a few months ago, Kings Dominion was working to have Volcano's replacement ready for 2021. So: An idea I had was a kind of multi-launched mine ride that winds around the scenery. Dang, was that a top hat intertwined with a cobra roll intertwined with a loop? The ride manufacturer set out to develop a launch coaster, the company's first, that would be powered by a linear induction motor (LIM). It has a great layout. Nah, I dont think they should even re profile the turn. [15], In 2014, the queue line was upgraded with a new loading station to help increase the riders per hour. Former owner Paramount Parks ordered and oversaw the installation of the new Intamin coaster after that. Lets get into it. [2] The story focused on calling guests Lava Chasers, who were on a quest to explore the remnants of an ancient city inside a volcano. Forums. We may even see this theme expand to a re-theme and update of Backlot Stunt Coaster, Flight of Fear, and Intimidator 305. Though, i will say that the loading procedure and roll out of the station is certainly much better on the B&M. what other contenders are out there? The teaser campaign run by the park on Social Media involved a number of coordinates from archeological sites around the world, but the park only talked about Professor Wheys Amazon expeditions. Avoiding the entire flying coaster fad was one of the best moves I've seen Cedar Fair make. Find it all and much more with the interactive Roller Coaster Database. It was located in the Safari Village section of the park and featured three rides inside a dark ride named Land of the Dooz, a flume ride named Voyage to Atlantis, and a Rotor flat ride from Chance Rides named Time Shaft. Reply . In fact, theres evidence in the files we received that strongly suggests that these plans are still a working draftlikely a layout proposal that the designer sent to Cedar Fair/Kings Dominion for review and markup. They should replace it with like a Gravity Group woodie. I know that Storm is Gerstlauer's first inverted thrill coaster, and Cedar Fair strays away from prototypes, but there is a decent relationship between the two companies and I wouldn't be surprised if Gerstlauer was the one to do the work on whatever's coming. "This wasnt an easy decision for us, because we know that people love this one-of-a-kind coaster; however, over time it became nearly impossible to keep the ride up to our high standards of reliability and guest satisfaction, and for these reasons we had to make the tough call," the park said on its website. 72,467 views Feb 11, 2019 1.4K Dislike Share Coaster Studios 198K subscribers Kings Dominion is removing their most popular roller coaster, due to. I think a clone of Beyond the Cloud would be super cool, and I thought a Mack Extreme spinner would be cool too, the only problem is that they'd have two spinning coasters next to each other, and the GP would confuse them. I rode it about a month back and thought it was great for what it was! We have reason to believe that the plans that we have seen are likely not a finalized iteration of the plans for the project. I'm all for this, with some incredible theming added it'd be amazing Mushroom Getting aHEAD of myself Advisory Panel Feb 12, 2011 6,177 18,389 250 Sep 16, 2022 #302 (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Let's imagine Hollywood's ultimate star-driven theme park resort. For Anaconda, I could see the old B&M Wing Coaster layout that was leaked. Basecamp restaurant and retail (pic courtesy of Kings Dominion). In 2022, Jungle X-Pedition will consist of a new roller coaster, a retheme and enhancement of an existing restaurant (Outer Hanks), and exclusive merchandise. Dont call it a comeback, KDFans been here for years Kings Dominion is a Cedar Fair park and sister park of Kings Island located in Doswell, Virginia. I think back lot needs to be returned to full working order. Virginia's Kings Dominion announced yesterday that it has closed and will remove its Volcano: The Blast Coaster ride. They would NDT the trains and find cracks all over them and then the ride would be closed for months. Around the corner, guests can climb Tumbili for a topsy-turvy adventure. I think they should probably repaint it, and retheme. Wed expect that subsequent versions of the Volcano replacement project plans would incorporate that structure in one way or another. I know it's not likely but it's not impossible, yes i'm pumped for Unused Space, ride of year 2021 calling it now. It was a good coaster but the coaster itself cannot account for its popularity. Its a nice, family friendly ride. - YouTube Here is WHY I think this roller coaster could become one of Kings Dominion's largest! Regional parks & attractions, Disney, Universal, and more! A second concept for the theme was then proposed by Shane's Amusement Attic. I was thinking about a launched B&M wingrider or a launched Mack coaster like copperhead strike? Those coasters are to new to be removed. You remove a coaster it will be a decade before its replaced and another for a new coaster. [2], Kings Dominion was acquired by Paramount Parks in 1993, and under new ownership, plans were made to renovate the mountain. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Save $25+ Per Ticket on Select Dates I wouldnt give up hope on their future investments just yet they did just get a really nice RMC so its definitely not quite in the realm of neglected Cedar Fair parks. I will do an in-depth analysis on what we can expect to take up the former site of volcano. Well try to make sure you hear from us again before too long? [8] Intamin based the prototype design on their Suspended Catapult Coaster model. I find they make it hard to tell what exactly the ride is doing. Also KD has been getting VERY, VERY, VERY lucky.. 4 years between twisted Timbers and Tumbili, and it's highly likely that volcano replacement will come on KD's 50th anniversary. Remove the lame backlot stunt coaster and the crazy mouse one and replace them with better coasters. I think it would be so much more popular without the grey-out. Thanks for reading! The layout appears to be the smaller model of S&S 4-D Free Spin (recently installed at Adventureland in Iowa this year) however still looks to be a ton of fun. Replies 372 Views 27K. Now, a few things may really stand out to anyone who knows theirBolliger & Mabillard wing coasters. Overall Batwing is way better than the one B&M flyer I've ridden. First they should take down Grizzly In my opinion. The industry went through a phase where buying the big fast Intamin was the cool thing to do, i'm actually kind of amazed Volcano lasted this long (to be fair it didn't operate much of the time and was SBNO its entire last year), but as George W Bush says "fool me once." [3] In 1996, the park moved in another direction hiring Intamin to design a new roller coaster. Alpengeist is too close to Kings Dominion I'd imagine for an Invert. That looks fun, but I hope this trend of self-leveling videos, or whatever it's called, on coasters comes to an end soon. lodoun park for gravel pit? I hope they can still integrate the volcano structure for a new coaster or flat ride. gabe3235 Contributing Member. Regardless, with so many similarities, a video of the Hot Go layout in action should still give a very good idea of what this proposed wing coaster would actually look like if built as drafted in these plans. of Volcano. I got so tired just reading the title of this thread that I can't think of anything. Out with the old and unreliable. Also, Tumbili was never considered a Volcano replacement. As to how long it ran, 20 years doesn't strike me as a long life span for a coaster - certainly not when you consider the fact that the Coney Island Cyclone celebrated its 90th birthday two years ago - although with a coaster of this complexity I suppose that one should figure in a reduction in life expectancy. KD badly needs a modern woodie. Executive Chef Denis Callinan promises hearty snacks and meals complementing the new area. Posted by 4 months ago. Id rather see Anaconda rebuilt so its not painful anymore as opposed to being replaced. Some of the biggest challenges included the installation of the coaster's climax, a 155-foot-tall (47m) roll out inversion where the track exits the structure, and the mountain's peak itself, which had to be modified into a wide opening that resembled a volcano. [22], The highest point of the roll out is 155 feet (47m) above ground level, which made it the highest inversion at Kings Dominion, taller than Dominator's 135-foot (41m) vertical loop. Its launch mechanism utilized linear induction motor (LIM) technology. The plans, themselves, provide a very interesting glimpse into the development process for this coaster, but its hard to know just how solidified any of the details presented actually are. [2] The trains failed to exit the volcano consistently during early testing, often rolling back down to the launch area in what is typically referred to as a rollback. Are you disappointed in the scale of this proposal? coaster looks really interesting to me and is extremely unique in the way that Volcano was. If it does well, KD would probably take Canadas Wonderlands place and ride into the top tier parks. but that would be about it. According to Kings Dominion, the closure revolved around the inability to keep Volcano: The Blast Coaster up to the park's high reliability and guest satisfaction standards. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I wouldn't want it completely re built, i would just adjust the first turn once again. Merged with the existing thread where this matter has already been discussed. JavaScript is disabled. I hear it still has enough positive G's to limit reridability, but they had to go for a curvy layout to fit it there. Tumbili will replicate the play of monkeys swinging through the trees, tumbling and falling in 8-person cars while flipping uncontrollably. The park announced today that beginning in January 2023, Kings Dominion will expand to year-round operations. Plus, stunt coaster is a good family ride for kids, and families. Make it stop. After making a sweeping 200-degree turn behind the mountain, the train entered the second launch tunnel, followed by a vertical section ending in a "roll out" element. Looked more appealing and interesting than the actual ride. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Tbh, I'd sacrifice Racer before The Grizzly. Looking for a Discount on admission? In 1984, Land of the Dooz was refurbished and rethemed to The Smurfs franchise, becoming known as Smurf Mountain. Additionally, a very large area next to Avalanche is earmarked in the plans as a plaza with no real specifics given. According to our source, the plans above were labeled as a 2021 project. [20] A section of track, a ride vehicle, and signage from the retired attraction were later donated to the National Roller Coaster Museum in Plainview, Texas. Unfortunately, the theme was later abandoned due to the film's poor box office performance. Retail space will also be added with unique Jungle X-Pedition merchandise. Park Officials did not elaborate on whether this theme will encompass the entirety of the Safari area of the park; Ill comment on that later. That's right, one of the most anticipated roller coasters in the US ran for much of its first season with just 8 seats per train, and with the systems only able to launch trains every 90-120 seconds or so, the overall capacity of the ride was pathetic. Its been a while, I know. Something that may not be immediately obvious to many people is that the layout depicted above seems to actually be a modified version of an existing B&M wing coaster. Another ride manufacturer, Premier Rides, had pioneered the concept two years earlier with the design of Flight of Fear at Kings Island. I wouldnt complain about a F.L.Y. I feel fortunate to have found it operating when I visited Kings Dominion last April. We can, however, say that we are 99% sure that what were looking at is real and, furthermore, that we are sure enough in our judgement to bet KDFans reputation on it. Kings Dominion (@KingsDominionVA) July 27, 2021. I could see people making comments like "they should have put those flipping seats on the wing coaster!' Perhaps the more interesting thing about this layout is what space itdoesnt fill. Volcano: The Blast Coaster, or simply Volcano, was an inverted roller coaster located at Kings Dominion in Doswell, Virginia. I genuinely don't know a single person who likes that ride. Maybe several places where a dark alcove or small cave is created and then a light turns on showing a scary looking attacking animal as you go by, not staying on long enough for you to see it's fake. We have a thread dedicated to a discussion of the term, general public. I suggest moving any further discussion of that (in my opinion very unfortunate lable) there and keep this thread on-topic. Privacy Policy. This could Replace Volcano the Blast Coaster at Kings Dominion. Ideally the layout would be more a curvy out and back for more short 10-45 degree curves and airtime and maybe inversions. Between having to replace those members, which would have required even more cuts into the mountain's structure (over the past year, a number of cuts were made into the mountain to access and inspect these supports) and the cost for a ride that is already one of the most expensive in the park to operate (because of the 2 launches using older, inefficient LSMs), Kings Dominion probably made the right call. [21], Volcano's layout simulated the path of a volcanic eruption. These coordinates point to the lost city of Pompeii, which was buried under 4-6 meters of volcanic ash, resulting in the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I think Grizzly gets removed. The first year it opened, lines for the unique coaster (even before its demise, it was still the only complete circuit inverted launching coaster in the world) were consistently over 2 hours because of frequent roll-backs and technical issues. Home. This area received some new television screens as well. Growing up in VA, KD was my home park. Volcano was such a popular ride that if it does get a replacement, it'll have to be on par or if not better than the ride. I find they make it hard to tell what exactly the ride is doing. While we were told a lot of information about the immediate area around the old Crypt ride, Kings Dominion was very coy about what this means for the future of the Safari. Person as author : Doumas, Christos In : History of humanity: scientific and cultural development, v.II: From the third millennium to the seventh century B.C., p. 146-151 Language : English Also available in : Also available in : Franais Year of publication : 1996 Plus, the unloading side of the station had fake rockwork. The scheduling change adds additional weekends to the calendar in January, February and early March, with regular park operation continuing throughout the rest of the year. I'm sure it would have been way better than the Intamin before, as most rides are. Why? KD would probably become even more hated(not that it is hated). After a left turn, the train returned to the station. Not entirely unlike Copperhead but less intense and far less expensive, and no inversions. I remember spending the summer of 98 visiting the park weekly as this ride was delayed opening, but thoroughly enjoying the ride. That's gonna be a dope Camp Snoopy expansion! They do not have a invert so that would be a great fit. An invert would also be a nod to Volcano, which park fans would appreciate. Should keep them both and just add more. I hope whatever they choose to do ends up being a worthy successor to Volcano. That area is roughly approximated by the red shaded area in the map above. I will also share with you my predictions for when I think we could the park open their next coaster! Or if we ever do get a replacement. Having exhausted all avenues for debunking the documents that we can think of and having been satisfied with the information provided regarding the sourcing of these documents, we believe its fair to say that the plans we obtained are almost certainly real. Full Statement: After another turnaround and a third heartline roll, the train made a turning 80-foot (24m) drop into the final brake run. Discussions. Its unclear whether or not that structure would remain in this proposal, but it strikes me as fairly unlikely that it would. 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