never initiate contact with a man

2. SPECIAL REPORT: How to Become the Worlds Most Attractive & Feminine Goddess (Even if you have no self esteem or no man has ever paid you any attention) CLICK HERE to download it at no cost. At the time, I cut contact with my guy friend. If the goal is not to chase, but not to be passive, then what is the real goal here in dating, for us as women? Chasing a man means youre trying to extract value and youre not at all attuned to him. (And this is what I mean about catering to one group of guys only the kind who just want to have fun and screw around are in-between relationships and to some level, fear commitment for their own reasons).The only downside to a woman approaching a man is possible rejection (which is going to happen one way or another in ones life anyway. Yes, you need to screen out men who are timid and and screen out men not that into you. What if your phone accidentally pocket dials them? Had mostly guy friends, drank too much, wore slutty clothes, swore a lot (note all the past tense) but then somehow, with my big hoop earrings I managed to meet the most amazing shy guy who is totally someone I think is hotter than me but doesn't know it, and voila, he was awesome enough for me to quit drinking, quit smoking, I still swear like a trooper though and I find (also from reading your blog) that my dress sense and style have always been cute (what with the non matching undies and the fact that high heels kill my feet! All things you can control. He responds well and puts in an effort to keep our conversations going, but he never hits me up unless I text him first. Rules,You seem to be advocating a world in which women would ignore, or do their best to appear to ignore, any and all men who might be interested in them until one of those men makes that cold approach. Do you really want to be persuading someone to date you at the beginning? He's just not sure about you yet. What does this all mean? If you are a woman who is incapable or unwilling to initiate, then somethings up. After you both had short good times in non sex things and kind of growing great friendship.So was that the truth that he only wanted you for sex ? Because no matter how masculine a guy is, hes going to instinctively be looking for responsiveness and attunement in his woman. They have the confidence and dare I say fearlessness to engage with men (or women, if the securely attached person is a man). 3. haha) though it's clear that they want to, I have continued to develop feeling for this guy and now I have no idea if he's interested or not. I know, this one sounds kind of obvious, but still, I want to point out that this guy might be a little insecure about himself. Now lets see if I can do something productive with it. The post mentions something about female approachability: "High value women are approached by men, and with high frequently. There are better ways of filtering than suddenly ignoring someone. I don't think they're referring to 2am texts for sex, I think they're referring to any kind of meeting up. "Those who are single intend to stay that way, as they see their early twenties as a time they'd like to have fun. - again, gradually but surely. What to do when your ex responds to texts but never initiates 1. I suppose that is a preference for some, but do you think it is the case for most guys? Get to know a guy a little first before deciding you want to sleep with him, have a relationship etc. They gaze at a man a fraction of a second longer than they should. Your situation - rejecting a guy a few times but still really wanting to see him - is rare. "Yes, in fact I would say it is probable. Excuse the essay. But it does mean that hes not making a move and he wants to see what happens between the two of you first. I was blown away by how kind and empathetic my coach was. What is your opinion on dealing with guys that you are friends with/hang out with? However if you are just looking to get laid, have some mindless fun with Mr/Ms Wrong you can do whatever the hell you want.It's SO refreshing to see a man publicly admitting that women should not be the initiators, as in my experience men refuse to start a conversation because aggressive new-age women have them trained that they don't have to anymore. Thanks for reply.I read your post on 'rejection' and think it is wise. Women are just objects to you, always pathetic, only valid if they are beautiful. :-) Or do guys think a woman should be as approachable as possible? Their popularity boils down to how skilled their coaches are. Ask him what is going on and see if he will be willing to change his behavior. I guess this is one of your biggest fears with this whole situation, right? We have been texting one line a day but he gets back 5-6 hrs later. So this' how I've acted since I 'changed my mind', so-to-speakAfter about 6 months, I realized that I was no longer looking at him as just a brother, but something more and I was okay with it by that point, as I do want a Godly man and where else would I find one but at church?! More importantly, how do you avoid messed up mentally ill guys who love bomb rather than truly go through hurdles because they're into you. Initiating is clearly getting confused with chasing. Other than that women don't need to do a thing. And women (atleast in my experience) can make contact by sending out texts, asking how we're doing, initiating a conversaition. What do you think? If you're in a public space, outside of a customer context, and a man starts talking to you out the blue, you can safely assume that he's interested in you. Author of many Genres - Winner of several Book Awards. How if you tested a man that you liked by pretending that you didn't like him because you were worried he just wanted you only for sex. CLICK HERE to find out with this specially crafted quiz! So yesterday I texted: Hope your being a good boy! I know he already thinks of me as a bit oversensitive. Does that happen?I have been out with men who seems to gaze into my eyes or look at my boobs when I'm talking or think that everything I say is "so cute" (even if I'm talking about politics). Hey man, most women don't initiate on men they DO find attractive. Don't do this with people you don't know that well, but if you're closer friends it's an option. There was a time when a men did not want their manhood put into question. It means that you feel too scared to take the perceived risk of initiating. If not, then you have to back of and accept that he isn't interested. Athletic fit can mean different things too. (In science!) When a guy is not in his integrity and also makes no attempt to commit to you fully or give you reassurance in any way, then hes most likely just playing games. Youre not gonna like this, but the first reason could be that hes just playing games with you. The women would have to be constantly (inauthentically) making herself scarce and uncommunicative in order to tantalise and trigger his desire to chase. With all these reasons, do you know now why he isnt initiating contact? Hence which later caused him to badmouth me towards his friends to make me seem more unattractive. If a guy isnt sure about his feelings for someone else, or if his life is completely chaotic right now and he has a lot of stress going on in his life at the moment (e.g., because of school or work), then it might be hard for him to initiate contact with someone else too. http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2013/01/nightlife-tip-1-create-space-at-bar.html, http://therulesrevisited.blogspot.com/2011/08/why-you-dont-get-approached-by-men.html, http://therulesrevisited.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-to-make-yourself-approachable.html, http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2013/01/why-men-dont-approach-you-during-day.html, http://www.marriedmansexlife.com/2012/01/girl-game-if-hes-into-you-hell-ask-you.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MarriedManSexLife+%28Married+Man+Sex+Life%29, she probably isn't considered the hottest thing ever by ALL men, http://slimminggarciniaadvice.com/garcinia-health-max/, http://guidemesupplements.com/brainplus-iq/, http://shredhdxabout.com/beware-millionaire-circle-scam/, http://guidemesupplements.com/derma-breast-lift/, (The secret obsession that makes men fall in love) - (What men look for in The One). I'm so glad I have a gf I love more than anything and that loves me too. I'll post it eventually. He told me himself he was surprised to hear from me (I can add that his friends had a bit of a "what is someone like her doing with you? The only way you will give off the "slut" aura you are talking about is if you actively pursue men (though this could just be through heavy eye contact, s suggestive smile, etc.). "How could you look at a girl in a bar and envision dating her when you haven't even spoken to her? i.e. I find him good-looking, he is no Brad Pitt, but I'm sure other girls could be into him. Let them arrange the meet-up, etc.IF they hit it off, that's justbad luck for you. Jesus, how lucky am I! Sometimes guys who are really into us will start to act shyer around us when they realize they have been acting too cool with us. Would be interested in your thoughts on it. Maybe guys just need to wait a few years and hold out for women to approach them, women who no longer have time to play these games ( that you say are not games). "I will write a post about how you should text a guy."Great! Anyway, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Or is it important to go out with men whom are physically attractive? Guys feel the same, but we have to man up and do it anyway because that's what we're supposed to do as guys. hes not sure about his feelings for you. What do you want, a gold digger? If this is the case, then its best if you figure out where you stand with him. Together with her husband D. Shen at Commitment Triggers blog, they have positively influenced the lives of over 15 million women through their free articles and videos as well as 10s of thousands through paid programs through the Shen Wade Media platform. He might have some unresolved issues from the past, and hes afraid of getting hurt again, so hes trying to avoid commitment altogether. I'm in a fitness class where I talk to all the girls and the boys keep to themselves. I've been texting a guy that I thought was promising, and we were texting easily, but sometimes he disappeared and then next day he use to iniciate contact again, one morning I sent the first message of the day and he replied nice and we're making jokes of each other and soon after I replied to his question on how was my day going, (I gave him a standard answer) I didn't heard back from him again ( 2 days now).So, as I've seen it here I am not the one who has to send a text now, since I was the last one who sent one is that correct? Look, I understand the whole fear behind the advice to never initiate. I keep the rule simple, if I approach (which is rare) there is something so irresistible then I will initiate the contact. If any women read this article and read this comment, AVOID THE ADVICE GIVEN IN THE ARTICLE. So perhaps I'm giving it up :-(But I'm still wondering if I can spot the problem - if he just doesn't find me attractive, there is nothing I can do about that (I take well care of myself, so cannot 'optimize' my attractiveness much more. As a college sophomore, I have made a lot of guy friends who I would definitely be interested in possibly exploring relationships with at some point, and I know that they are attracted to me (because they say so and make it abundantly clear in their stereotypical drunk-boy compliments), but nothing ever happens with them because I know a drunken hook up would be a huge mistake. A similar scenario were this guy and I would text often, and I respond in kindness , never being rude always friendly. But I was sad because we kinda growing great friendship. I didn't text him after the date to say thank you and I wasn't planning to (even though I did have a good time, I didn't want to initate contact) he texted me and thanked me for letting him take out and saying he had a great time. This is becoming a rare type of girl as well.Innitiating contact has somewhat to do with this, yes, but taking this as the only indicator is unreasonable.Furthermore, as i resently started with coaching women, if done in the right way, women can do this easily and effectively as i have seen already a few happy relationships coming out of this :-). Some guys are so caught up in their own heads that they end up thinking they are not good enough for the girl they like! But the cool thing is this: you can filter guys out, of course asking the right questions and be clear what you are looking for, helps, but yes they can be misleading. I want to be approachable to the extent that a nice guy won't see me as cold or uptight, but I don't want to be so "open" that guys flood around all the time. It's possible he's upset with me for not making time for him. I need to add something about shy men: I think what you wrote will have many guys upset, as I know plenty of (young) guys whom are not very confident and prefers a situation where women approaches them. He was a friend of the groom and friends with a lot of people there. If they need you to initiate, they are either too shy or aren't interested enough. I love when a girl comes after me, then I know she's interested cuz too many girls wanna play games and lie. I've only seen/talked to him at events that we'd both go to. I then also made a friend in the city who seemed pretty eager to be in a relationship, so I told her I had the perfect guy for her. where's the post on being approachable? Ask other male friends for their opinion of your hair next time too - just as a cross-check; I wouldn't be surprised if you get really good feedback though. I know some girls meet their boyfriends at uni, I'm just not sure if they actually get talking at school or just agree to meet on nights out. "You don't owe it to him to answer. But it could also be a message on a dating website, or asking for a phone number after you are introduced by friends. Now that I am almost divorced, I have been seeing my guy friend on a platonic basis.He always asks me about my dating situation and if I am seeing someone or if my divorce has been finalized. This seems to reiterate the old saying that if you have to ask if he likes you, he doesn'tit has definitely been true in all of my experience with boys/men. I don't really approach girls (in bars or elsewhere) that I couldn't envision myself dating. But then he said good luck too! I'm not good at this stuff, Hello BubblyBarbie,I am really curious about how it went the last month. Here are 5 Unusual Signs He Is Madly In Love with You! And in return, hell be compelled to commit to you and love you like hes never loved another woman. Thats where all of your answers lie. He def. The ego is scary and my self-esteem is way more busted than it was 2 days ago before I read all of this. Now we have made plans to make plans after he gets back from a family vacation that he is going on with his parents and sisters and their families. However, it is almost never so murky that the initiative is indiscernable from the acceptance/rejection either. Are you assuming that those initial contacts are random, chance events? The strategy of not intiating is one that is the burden of the "underdog" - the person more interested in the relationship. Andrew's blog has been a life saver for my dating life - and time and time again - his advice has rung true - especially about letting men plan/initiate in the early stages/well into the later stages. which lowered his confidence. Nothing like sucking the individuality out of someone by grouping the entire world into two ill-fitting parts. Very attractive women, of course, get lots of attention from the wrong types, and sometimes men pursue for years just to get into their pants. I'm an attractive girl in her late 20's who was a +1 at a mutual friends wedding. You think as long as his facebook status says "single", he should be the one to be in touch?I've wondered about this a few times, because I usually wait for the guy and am often unsure if he is waiting for me to say something once in a whileI'm not a very extroverted person and although sleeping with him should give him the right clue (and I am very affectionate when we ARE intimate), I am not one who 'carries my heart on my sleeve' and I think men can sometimes be unsure of how I feel. What a man says is the worst possible indicator of his interest: you need to pay attention to what he does. Dont let old rules strip you of your ability to actually live and learn. You reply friendly to every text, but you stop at some point because the conversation can't go for days (given that his last text didn't ask a question).Am I suppose to send the next one anyway or wait for him to text me again? This is something we all have to go through at some point or another! ".But I don't like "text conversations". Dont worry though if a guy is really into you and wants to get to know you better, then he will make the first step. In just a few minutes you can connect with a certified relationship coach and get tailor-made advice for your situation. Feminine energy has no desire to figure out how to initiate contact because there's no WANT to initiate contact. This is the equivalent of the male question "how do I know if she rejected my approach because I am not attractive enough or because I didn't approach her confidently/casually/quickly/wittily/naturally/etc. Text messages where perhaps women declare to men their undying admiration and love in an uncalibrated way. If you're the anxious type, you may overcompensate for his behavior and keep reaching out to him. Instead of trying to decipher his intentions or instigate an approach, you need to become comfortable with the idea that not every man is interested, in the same way that men need to become comfortable with the idea that they can't attract every woman they approach. ), cause he said "do I know you?. Any woman who has had a man be in love with her knows this. Hahahahaha!! (My husband has made the most incredible class in high value banter and you should test it out for yourself.). Thats what insecurely attached or traumatised children can often subconsciously feel. About a week later, he called and we've been talking ever since. "I want to ask, is it always the high value women whom are approached the most? We couldn't stop cuddling and touching legs, feet, bodies in bed and the next morning was magic. And Im not saying you should chase a man, because you shouldnt. Perhaps he really likes you, but he doesnt want to show you that, yet, so thats why he just replies and never initiates contact. I mean I suppose most girls get more attention on nights out since those are the venues you go to actively meet people. Andrew, I have been following your posts from past few months and they are very practical and positive. When they were growing up, they learned that almost nothing involving closeness and attachment is safe, nor worth the vulnerability or risk. P.S. Now: if this happens to you and you think he might just not be used to initiating contact, talk to him! Are you assuming that those initial contacts are random, chance events? "This is a valid point, and one I probably should have at least mentioned. You see, fear of rejection is a real thing and weve all dealt with it at some point or another. but we both did nt talk about it at all. Been married for 7 years, happily, to a guy who I initiated contact with! Another reason could be that hes just not interested in you. :DRegards,Marie. QUIZ TIME: Are you truly living in your feminine energy? I'm currently in a situation where I feel like I might have to be the one to initiate. If I don't take the initiative I'm afraid I'll die single. Not in controlling yourself so that you take no risks and be passive, but in the intent to be playful and connect with men. If a man cancels a date, changes plans last minute or anything in that area, what would you say is the appropriate reaction? :/. Guys keep telling me they love girls who initiate contact, girls say they've had success doing it. That being said, if a guy is stunned by her beauty, she probably isn't considered the hottest thing ever by ALL men, so she probably gets approached frequently by them.In general, I think women get approached more in proportion to how attractive they are, but there might be this phenomenon as well, whereby the hottest women (9s and 10s) actually get approached a little less than the attractive women (7s and 8s). But now I feel that I am detaching. I had started to like him but didn't initiate anything beyond friendship. If you are online dating, the best method to initiate with a man without looking desperate is to use high value banter. If not then just live like a robot, following the rules, conservative rules that men always do everything first in approaching. My coworkers have continued to tease us like the professional adults that they are (perhaps he said something to someone that made them believe there's something going on? Would be great if you could mention this in the post. Yeah, the terminology needs clarification here. He also said I have your number. After all, your introductory messages are always so entertaining and engaging! This might sound a little weird, but the second reason why he doesnt initiate contact but always responds is that he wants to see how far things will go between you two. was upset then all of a sudden he texted me and said he was so sick and suffering with high fever etc so that is why we could nt make it to skiingthen texted him 2 weeks later and he asked me to meet for a drink and accepted. i found the other guy soooooooooooooooooo interesting and phisically appealing that i waited for that friday that was his birthday to add him on facebookwas it bad? I realize that I messed up and I want to acknowledge that and reassure him that I'm not in a rush, but I fear that'll just make matter worse. Should I initiate something or no. Keep asking me. Not cold after being warm and open but ignored him. I had initiated interest. xD Ignoring that little fact, let's say that women "on a whole" actually preferred this "stable relationship" thing. Read these posts and hear all of the trickery and dishonesty.Really! I found this site just when I needed it. So the hotter a girl is, the more she needs to do this in order to filter out the guys that just want to get laid.But then on the other hand, she has to balance putting up too few hurdles with putting up too many, because there is an upper limit as well: if you make it TOO difficult for a guy to get you, some genuine guys who aren't as determined might give up as well. (maybe they do do that. At most, it is a reliable source of advice for women who want to improve their chances with the opposite sex. How could you look at a girl in a bar and envision dating her when you haven't even spoken to her?I've read quite a few pages on here now and my conclusion is that you are a misogynist. After initiating once or twice though, back off and let him initiate. We go out and eat one on one. But hes still not opened up as much as he should. However, I'm starting to get the impression that it is really the man's job to pursue. He works 10 days in a row, 10 hour shifts in catering so does not have much time to date he told me his last date broke up due to this issue. When a guy doesnt know what he wants from life and from relationships in general (or even from YOU! It's so frustrating and confusing! Only then will you figure out where you stand on the scale of attractiveness. He always leaves me with suggestions of hanging out "next time" or he says something like "we should go to the beach next time" or "we'll grab dinner next time" It's always next time! That said, I think the principl(however it is illustrated or manifests itself in real life) holds true in almost any situation. And when a woman comes along and triggers them, it causes a powerful response. But what kinds of people really need and thrive upon advice thats designed to get them to swing the pendulum away from truly engaging in playfulness with men, and instead towards never initiating? However I forgot to get her number.We share many mutual friends on Facebook and I don't expect her to initiate. From the moment I got in touch, I was given genuine, helpful advice, and was finally able to see my relationship issues with real clarity. "are you advising women to be passive wallflowers until cold-approached by a man? Is your man hiding something? Not yet.Why do you like shy guys? Yes! If you buy through links on this page, we may earn a small commission. Instead of hurting your feelings, he is trying to let you down easy, but youre not taking the hint, so he keeps replying to your texts. MY APOLOGIES FOR A LENGTHY POST, but I just don't think I can get a real answer without putting this ALL out here:I really have a thing for a guy from my church, but I didn't always have it. In my own experience, I like to be with a man who isnt intimidated by me, simply because I dont think thats a good foundation for a relationship. However, throwing all the guys who approach girl in the player catogory is unreasonable as well, just saying the above things to challenge your ideas.In your point of view, a girl who approaches men can be seen as 'easy'. I have decided that I won't initate contact unless I am actually dating someone. Girlfriends will tell you that you are the hottest thing ever. "Or do guys think a woman should be as approachable as possible? He has previously indicated that he thinks I'm slightly out of his league or that he's "very lucky". A friendly hello, or is that too much? Now, this one is pretty common and I see it a lot. Insecure or fearful people. It is any action that is the first step away from a platonic relationship and towards a romantic and/or sexual relationship.

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never initiate contact with a man